Anupama Garg
Mukul ji wonderful!!!
महास्त्री - - -
कितनी लंबी है
महापुरूषों की कतार
पर हाय
इतने महापुरूष मिलकर
पैदा नहीं कर सके
एक महास्त्री...
आपको और Abhishek Kumar को यह पसंद है.
Bharat Sharma
The narrative of women as a victim is a very western narrative. Look
at books like Second Sex of Simone de Beauva. It is promoted - both by
the communists who want to see everything from lens of class / conflict
instead of harmony and by missionaries because it serves their purpose
of making women lose faith in their civilizational beliefs.
In
Abrahamic beliefs, the lady is literally "bought" by paying a marriage
money - Meher or ring thing. In Dharmic / Indic view, the lady is
necessary and complimentary - like Yin and Yang.
Are
Shakti, Durga, Parvati good enough to define
Maha Stri ? Does
Draupadi qualify ?
What about the
pratah smaraniye stree ??
Anupama Garg Bharat Sharma Ji, please help me understand why does
RSS not have a single book on mahastri rather than devi?
Bharat Sharma
RSS has one point agenda - creation of people / vyakti nirman. Sangh
does nothing else. However there is no field where Swayamsevaks are not
active.
There are SCORES of books published by various publishing houses inspired by RSS. From
Gargi, to Devi
Ahilya Bai Holkar to
Kittoor Rani Chennama and LOADS of books on Veer mata
Jeeja bai.
Who in your definition is a Maha Stri ?
Anupama Garg and where do we see the swayamsevikas Bharat Sharma ji?
Bharat Sharma I see in you.
Anupama Garg ji, surely you are familiar with so many. Monika Arora bhabhi ji,Swathi Ram ji who heads YFS.....
Anupama Garg
I'm a semantically and linguisticaly driven person Bharat Sharma Ji,
so, while these women totally qualify as Maha Stri, there's not one
Point of reference in entire literature, where they are called "Maha
Stri" verbatim.Maha sati, Veer Mata, Devi, all words, but
linguistically when you do not find the word 'Maha Stri' you sell that
perception.
Anupama Garg So, perhaps, what needs to be done is that we need to change the linguistics to begin with
Bharat Sharma This is hair splitting certainly.
Anupama Garg And
the change in perceptions would soon follow. Even if not soon, the
change, I promise you, will be certainly far more stable, because then
psedo intellectuals like me will not e able to hair split
Anupama Garg Bharat Ji, God works in detail, but then so does the devil ?
Anupama Garg
And believe me on this Bharat Ji, I might be a person of detail, but
then detail is not ALWAYS harmful. As far as I am concerned, I totally
understand the difference between poetry and my grasp of fact. Poetry
is not necessarily fact.
Anupama Garg Let me ask you a
question further to this, if someone wrote a saga elucidating these
women (like khoob ladi mardani) what are the patrons of these Maha
Stris going to do to ensure that those sagas sell and are propogated?
Anupama Garg Sit
and arm chair theorize? I'm sorry if I sound paranoid, if I sound
critical, perhaps harsh too, but realistically an incentive always
works better than philosophical preaching. Specially when others are
incentivizing their propoganda (even when fake).
It is only after the
incentive scheme is deeply rooted to the point that it now becomes the
part and parcel of the belief and value system that incentives stop
matteringBharat Sharma ji, with all due respect, I do NOT mean any
disrespect or offense and I personally hold all these women in great
esteem and cringe at my personal failures to follow their footsteps,
but I do not live in their age. Give me a reason to feel that when I
follow them, my wings will not be clipped, my freedom will not be
curbed, I will feel safe, secure, an achiever and satisfied with myself
and the world around me, I will be fine
Bharat Sharma The
biggest incentive is the desire to do it because I feel it is important
to do it. Because I will not be able to sleep easy if I don't.
Anupama Garg Bharat
Sharmaji, again, the basic human incentive is bhookhe bhajan na hoi
gupala. Not everyone's incentive is martyrdom (specially when they
cannot afford it)
Anupama Garg And in continuation to that,
please let me feel that I will define and I can define what my
achievements are and should be, rather than my father, brother,
husband, son, or some random social construct defining it.